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GOG job listing for a Senior Software Engineer notes "Linux is the next major frontier"

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  • T the_q@lemmy.zip

    Is that what art is? Who doesn't consider digital artists to be artists? Point some out.

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    stephen01king
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    Here's one
    Reddit Link

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    • 4 4am@lemmy.zip

      Those things didn’t destroy communities, pollute the earth, wrestle personal computing away from the populace, use up all the drinking water in an area, and provide a near total and realtime panopticon of everyone, everywhere, at all times, while stealing all the collected works of said society in order to be built without penalty at a time when ordinary folks are ordered to pay hundreds of thousands of dollars because they posted a social media video of their kid dancing to a song that was playing on broadcast radio.

      But sure keep boiling in that pot because you don’t need to do all the boilerplate for your fucking Node project or whatever. Fucking frog.

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      ampersandrew@lemmy.world
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      It is the role of government to regulate those problems, but you can't uninvent a technology. As for me in my work, the most I can say is that I almost used AI once; a coworker did it for me before I could get to our company approved AI page. That, plus other companies mandating its usage (if it was really so great, it wouldn't be difficult to convince anyone to use it) is why I'm not confident that it is one of those inevitable technologies. But if it is, being a dick to people about it is stupid.

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      • D dukemirage@lemmy.world

        Luddites didn't fear technology, they feared for the commoditisation of manual labour and they were dead on right as pauperism followed.

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        stephen01king
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        Which means calling some anti-AI people Luddites make perfect sense, no? Many of them have just as valid of a worry and fear as the Luddites did.

        Of course, once the anti-AI sentiment goes mainstream, the amount of idiots who are irrationally anti-AI also increases, and these ones are not worth listening to, unlike the Luddites-like ones.

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        • T The Octonaut

          trust thsir own feelings over facts

          Can I take a guess that you are not currently employed in the software development industry?

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          XLE
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          There you go, predictably making more baseless claims. If these things are supposedly so great, prove it.

          And how did you hallucinate a misspelling in my comment? Maybe take a break from Elon's CSAM bot for a while.

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          • X XLE

            Don't act so stupid, dude. You know what post you're in, or at least I hope you do.

            If you want to claim that AI can magically do something that not even AI companies themselves can prove, then prove it. Ed Zitron has been begging AI evangelists like you to prove it for at least a year now. Otherwise, I call bullshit on your evangelism.

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            dukemirage@lemmy.world
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            So I‘m dragging down GOG?

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            • seathruS seathru

              Knowing what games are compatible and to what degree before purchasing them would make me happier.

              That's what https://www.protondb.com/ is good for.

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              ampersandrew@lemmy.world
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              There's also a very generous 30 day refund policy, so if you're at all unsure, make sure it's working in that first month. I was pretty close to refunding The Alters, because that game just barely works via Proton, even with the right workarounds. Hell of a game though.

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              • X XLE

                No thanks AI bro.

                I don't buy your evidence-free praise of AI. And I don't buy your No True Scotsman fallacy.

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                tjsauce@lemmy.world
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                Hey I'm against corporate AI too, but when anyone can create a very basic ML program that runs locally with public domain data, eventually something both useful and ethical will emerge. It's good to be skeptical, but you don't have to be an AI bro to see that some specific tools might meet or exceed your standards.

                I don't like image or video generators, but the core tech is really useful for frame interpolation, a usecase that is not inherently controversial and badly needs improvement.

                Sorry to not-x-it's-y, but it's not about forcing the big tool into your workflow, it's about finding the 1001 little tools that work every time and collecting them. Or, wait for these tools to be consolidated.

                If I seem naive, It's cause I believe in reclaiming as much from tainted technology as possible.

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                • ampersandrew@lemmy.worldA ampersandrew@lemmy.world

                  There's also a very generous 30 day refund policy, so if you're at all unsure, make sure it's working in that first month. I was pretty close to refunding The Alters, because that game just barely works via Proton, even with the right workarounds. Hell of a game though.

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                  massive_bereavement
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                  Being able to filter what works from what doesn't is a great way of weeding out possible disappointments.

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                  • X XLE

                    Don't act so stupid, dude. You know what post you're in, or at least I hope you do.

                    If you want to claim that AI can magically do something that not even AI companies themselves can prove, then prove it. Ed Zitron has been begging AI evangelists like you to prove it for at least a year now. Otherwise, I call bullshit on your evangelism.

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                    tjsauce@lemmy.world
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                    AI is not a monolith; there are a lot of tools out there that you don't hear about because all the focus is on the large, corporate models that are meant to dehumanize. LLMs like Gemini, Grok, and ChatGPT are awful inventions that should be dismantled, but smaller ML projects found on GitHub shouldn't be lumped in, as the few that survive the bubble will stick around because they prove to be effective.

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                    • 4 4am@lemmy.zip

                      Those things didn’t destroy communities, pollute the earth, wrestle personal computing away from the populace, use up all the drinking water in an area, and provide a near total and realtime panopticon of everyone, everywhere, at all times, while stealing all the collected works of said society in order to be built without penalty at a time when ordinary folks are ordered to pay hundreds of thousands of dollars because they posted a social media video of their kid dancing to a song that was playing on broadcast radio.

                      But sure keep boiling in that pot because you don’t need to do all the boilerplate for your fucking Node project or whatever. Fucking frog.

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                      tjsauce@lemmy.world
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                      You're talking about the worst of AI, which I agree should be dismantled. There are many smaller projects that do not do the things you mentioned, and it's possible to support those while shunning corporate AI.

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                      • G Goodeye8

                        None of what you brought up as a positive are things an LLM does. Most of those things existed before the modern transformer-based LLMs were even a thing.

                        LLM-s are glorified text prediction engines and nothing about their nature makes them excel at formal languages. It doesn't know any rules. It doesn't have any internal logic. For example if the training data consistently exhibits the same flawed piece of code then an LLM will spit out the same flawed piece of code, because that's the most likely continuation of its current "train of thought". You would have to fine-tune the model around all those flaws and then hope some combination of a prompt won't lead the model back into that flawed data.

                        I've used LLMs to generate SQL, which according to you is something they should excel at, and I've had to fix literal syntax errors that would prevent the statement from executing. A regular SQL linter would instantly pick up that the SQL is wrong but an LLM can't pick up those errors because an LLM does not understand the syntax.

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                        false@lemmy.world
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                        I've seen humans generate code with syntax errors, try to run it, then fix it. I've seen llms do the same stuff - it does that faster than the human though

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                        • T the_q@lemmy.zip

                          The referenced job is clearly talking about the current over valued tech bro kind, you buffoon.

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                          tjsauce@lemmy.world
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                          That's only if the HR knew what they were talking about when crafting the listing. Not saying GOG will use AI for good, but we don't know if the job will require something like ChatGPT or something in-house that isn't like GPT.

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                            ampersandrew@lemmy.world
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                            Sure, but you take the good with the bad. Most games work, and you get to actually own a copy via GOG. Hopefully they do proper integration with Proton in the future, and this position they're hiring for may very well lead to that. There's the option to buy games through Heroic, which gives Heroic a cut of GOG sales, so I'm sure to always do that so that I send the signal to GOG what's important to me and how they can earn my whole dollar.

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                              yermaw@sh.itjust.works
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                              50 shades of grAI

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                              • S stephen01king

                                Neither does a locally run LLM model.

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                                XLE
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                                Hey Steven, how do you think they make those models?

                                (As if you genuinely believe those are the ones GOG is using.)

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                                • X XLE

                                  We've got studies that show AI makes you feel more productive while you're actually less productive. And all you're offering is a feeling you feel. Get high on your own supply if you want, but don't drag down good companies with your evangelism.

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                                  otter@lemmy.zip
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                                  I'm curious about these studies. Do you have a citation?

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                                  • T tempest@lemmy.ca

                                    Honestly if part of their job is at all trying to get old shit to run on new operating systems AI is very useful for that task.

                                    Part of my job is keeping a 30 year old c++ application compiling and building on newer versions of Linux. LLMs have made this a far easier experience.

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                                    Cethin
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                                    I don't want to say you're totally wrong, but I am skeptical of the benefit. Sure, maybe it works now, which is cool, but is it making changes that are maintainable? The next time someone does this is it going to work? If we just constantly have LLMs update code, when does it start breaking, and when it does is it going to be in a state someone can fix?

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                                    • X XLE

                                      There you go, predictably making more baseless claims. If these things are supposedly so great, prove it.

                                      And how did you hallucinate a misspelling in my comment? Maybe take a break from Elon's CSAM bot for a while.

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                                      The Octonaut
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                                      Because I typed it.

                                      I don't need to prove anything, but mostly, your issue seems to be that you think a shitty in-painting image model has anything to do with the usefulness of something like Github Co-Pilot.

                                      If you don't understand something it's ok not to have the edgy opinion on it by default.

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                                        tomalley8342@lemmy.world
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                                        Copilot business subscriptions have fairly granular usage tracking, so they'd probably just replace you right away with someone who isn't quite so reserved. Looking at the comments here and in other places, there is certainly no shortage of such people.

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                                        • O otter@lemmy.zip

                                          I'm curious about these studies. Do you have a citation?

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                                          ravelin@lemmy.ml
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                                          Probably referencing this:
                                          https://metr.org/blog/2025-07-10-early-2025-ai-experienced-os-dev-study/

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