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1st Feb is #GlobalSwitchDay

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  • SdWolf1902S SdWolf1902

    How can I pick which piefed server doesn't have the social credit score enabled?

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    Grail
    wrote last edited by grail@multiverse.soulism.net
    #41

    I recommend MULTIVERSE, the anarcho-antirealist PieFed server. We have a karma system the same as Reddit, which you're used to, and we don't do any extra processing of the score. Some PieFed sites ignore karma earned on meme communities to prevent repost farming, but on MULTIVERSE, we just look at upvotes - downvotes, and unlike Reddit, your karma score means absolutely nothing for your ability to post on communities.

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    • SdWolf1902S SdWolf1902

      Ew gross, fuck tankies. I'm really confused so both lemmy and piefed are tankie-adjacent?

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      Deceptichum
      wrote last edited by
      #42

      No, only Lemmy.

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      • T toofpic

        All the people upvote you, it's only "them" who downvote you. You have a clear picture of the world around you!

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        Deceptichum
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        #43

        I said nothing about votes.

        I'm talking about the comm where they brigaded from the last thread this image was post and spammed it with misinformation.

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        • DeceptichumD Deceptichum

          You mean the lemmy.ml admin? The tankie one trying to deflect and make PieFed out to be the bad guy?

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          Grail
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          #44

          I wonder if they mean the genocide-denying lemmy admin or the transphobic lemmy admin. It's easy to mix those two guys up

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          • G Grail

            I wonder if they mean the genocide-denying lemmy admin or the transphobic lemmy admin. It's easy to mix those two guys up

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            Deceptichum
            wrote last edited by
            #45

            Excuse me that's transphobic and covid denying.

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            • L lauchmelder@feddit.org

              piefed has an opinionated dev reimplementing karma and filters for content they don't like right into the application

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              tiredofsametab
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              #46

              I was thinking of giving piefed a shot. Any further reading on this?

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              • Ek-Hou-Van-BraaiE Ek-Hou-Van-Braai

                I've tried to promote Lemmy on Reddit in the past, only to be met with people complaining about the really old UI and bad UX, they also complain about tankies.

                PieFed doesn't have that bad rep, so I've found it easier to promote, both lead to the Fedivers so either is a win.

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                wrote last edited by tidbit@mander.xyz
                #47

                I hear that, but the thing is anyone can block whatever/whoever they feel the need to in the fediverse. I truly believe server admins should federate across the board, as it's a disservice to end users only allowing federation with certain servers based on admin preference.

                As far as UI and UX go, Lemmy's devs are some of the biggest players in the overall fediverse functionality. So while the UI/UX could use some more attention in select areas, being able to interact with the other platforms is a much bigger aspect to the appeal of the fediverse! The Lemmy devs really do deserve a lot more credit for their work, regardless on their opinions or how the they approach discussing them.

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                • T͏i͏d͏b͏i͏T͏T T͏i͏d͏b͏i͏T͏

                  I hear that, but the thing is anyone can block whatever/whoever they feel the need to in the fediverse. I truly believe server admins should federate across the board, as it's a disservice to end users only allowing federation with certain servers based on admin preference.

                  As far as UI and UX go, Lemmy's devs are some of the biggest players in the overall fediverse functionality. So while the UI/UX could use some more attention in select areas, being able to interact with the other platforms is a much bigger aspect to the appeal of the fediverse! The Lemmy devs really do deserve a lot more credit for their work, regardless on their opinions or how the they approach discussing them.

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                  oimate@feddit.uk
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                  #48

                  Lemmy doesn't truly block stuff and the devs refuse to fix that

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                  • DeceptichumD Deceptichum

                    Excuse me that's transphobic and covid denying.

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                    Grail
                    wrote last edited by
                    #49

                    Oh boy oh boy, I think I'm about to receive a fun link with more Nutomic bad takes

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                    • S Skavau

                      Note, I've now seen you make this comment four times now on a brand new account - so my response here is meant in good faith.

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                      oimate@feddit.uk
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                      #50

                      No they're a 100% real user who despite only joining 35 minutes ago knows all about a 2 day old post.

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                      • O oimate@feddit.uk

                        Lemmy doesn't truly block stuff and the devs refuse to fix that

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                        wrote last edited by
                        #51

                        Really? Huh, I have a decent amount of communities blocked and I've never seen a single post from anyone of them after implementing the block

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                          lauchmelder@feddit.org
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                          I don't think there's a writeup, but I can search for explanations later, I'm kind of on the go rn. These filters are technically optional, it's just another piece of trust you have to hand over to your instance admin and hope they don't turn them on. Also you have to trust that these optional filters are the only ones, and that there won't be any hidden filters.

                          If you wanna give it a shot then by all means go ahead, but I personally feel very uneasy knowing these exist and the dev is willing to implement algorithms to punish people who post "bad content" in their eyes

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                          • W wrongdoer2@sh.itjust.works

                            What's the difference between Piefed and Lemmy?

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                            hayvan
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                            They are similar platforms and they federate, i.e. you can see all Lemmy content with a Piefed account and vice versa.

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                            • L lauchmelder@feddit.org

                              I don't think there's a writeup, but I can search for explanations later, I'm kind of on the go rn. These filters are technically optional, it's just another piece of trust you have to hand over to your instance admin and hope they don't turn them on. Also you have to trust that these optional filters are the only ones, and that there won't be any hidden filters.

                              If you wanna give it a shot then by all means go ahead, but I personally feel very uneasy knowing these exist and the dev is willing to implement algorithms to punish people who post "bad content" in their eyes

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                              Lemmy also has filters, you have to have the same 'trust' that admins don't add words to them.

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                              • N neatnit@discuss.tchncs.de

                                The Fediverse's biggest onboarding problem is having too many choices that seem important but don't really matter. Namely, which instance to sign up on. Listing two different platforms that do the same thing and even federate with each other would only make it worse. I'm guessing that's why they only listed one.

                                As for why choose one over the other, I don't have a horse in this race, I'm sure they had their reasons.

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                                karashta
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                                Except it does matter which instance you choose because they choose to defederate with other instances, it may be an instance run by one person who disappears, on a huge instance that collapses, etc.

                                There's not really a way to migrate totally, AFAIK, so if you choose wrong, you start over. This has been my actual user experience. Kbin was my first choice because of UI and mastodon integration. That instance died when the Dev disappeared. Then I moved to lemm.ee thinking that a large instance surely would stay up. It didn't.

                                So "it doesn't matter" which instance you choose. Except it also kind of does.

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                                  Lemmy also has filters, you have to have the same 'trust' that admins don't add words to them.

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                                  lauchmelder@feddit.org
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                                  Lemmy intransparently punishes users for using reaction GIFs, writing "this" comments and punches communities for having the words "meme' or "shitpost" in the title? that's crazy

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                                  • L lauchmelder@feddit.org

                                    Lemmy intransparently punishes users for using reaction GIFs, writing "this" comments and punches communities for having the words "meme' or "shitpost" in the title? that's crazy

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                                    Skavau
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                                    All of these things can be turned off, moreover, the "punches communities" specifically refers to the mass federation tool that instance admins can use that has had a lot of terms removed.

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                                    • K karashta

                                      Except it does matter which instance you choose because they choose to defederate with other instances, it may be an instance run by one person who disappears, on a huge instance that collapses, etc.

                                      There's not really a way to migrate totally, AFAIK, so if you choose wrong, you start over. This has been my actual user experience. Kbin was my first choice because of UI and mastodon integration. That instance died when the Dev disappeared. Then I moved to lemm.ee thinking that a large instance surely would stay up. It didn't.

                                      So "it doesn't matter" which instance you choose. Except it also kind of does.

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                                      neatnit@discuss.tchncs.de
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                                      Yeah, you're right, and that sucks. Mastodon is much better at this.

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                                      • renzhexiangjiaoR renzhexiangjiao

                                        piefed isn't made by tankies

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                                        no_name_dev_from_hell@programming.dev
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                                        It's made by feds.

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                                        • Ek-Hou-Van-BraaiE Ek-Hou-Van-Braai

                                          Today the first of Feb is Global Switch day, Spread awareness of the Fediverse in your communities.

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                                          hzl
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                                          Peertube isn't really a viable alternative. There isn't a substantial enough audience for creators and there isn't really enough content for an audience. I guess if you're one of the 100 people watching transport evolved that's cool but it isn't really a meaningful alternative. I suppose it could be supplementary, but why would creators want to drive their traffic to a site that doesn't actually matter for their visibility? I imagine the same probably applies to loops.

                                          Also, like, with video you kind of want a reliable host that you know isn't going anywhere.

                                          The rest are okay as long as you're not super worried about how many people are seeing what you post. Lemmy and Piefed are great for content aggregation and discussion, but they seem to be the only ones that at this point actually do anything that might be helpful.

                                          I've tried Mastodon and while it's way better than Twitter it isn't exactly providing a way to reach a substantial audience. Personal websites are probably a better bet for ease of access.

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