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Bluesky just verified ICE

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  • geneva_convenience@lemmy.mlG geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml
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    wrote last edited by lorski@sopuli.xyz
    #54

    Block them if you want. Block lists are public so... use caution.

    There are MANY government accounts on Blusky. I think if they did not verify them, the government would find someone to buy them or shut them down. Use your heads here.

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    • geneva_convenience@lemmy.mlG geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml
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      wrote last edited by lechekaflan@lemmy.world
      #55

      On paper it's a government agency which would normally be allowed to have verification.

      However it is a government agency functioning more like a hate group, right now very inimical to the concept and idea of civil rights (already enshrined as law), and hostile to diversity and social justice; with absolutely no regulation of its activities, it is an agency mandated directly by the executive to remove anyone who is not white and Christian.

      Unfortunately, Bluesky still has to verify them.

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        Why are people so max about this?

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        krashmo@lemmy.world
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        Because they want corporations to do their job for them of holding the government accountable.

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        • LeonD Leon

          You know that the problem isn’t that they’re verifying the gestapo, it’s that they’re platforming and subsequently legitimising them.

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          wrote last edited by
          #57

          Wake up. Ice, being government, it's already legitimized enough in real life.

          What difference would it make in the social media. Better if they are out in the open in social media instead, at least they get responsible for what they post, officially.

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          • tocopherol@lemmy.dbzer0.comT tocopherol@lemmy.dbzer0.com

            Posting propaganda for a terrorist organization engaged in widespread public abuse is against their rules, do they allow official verified pages for groups like ISIS or Boko Harem?

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            auraithx@lemmy.dbzer0.com
            wrote last edited by auraithx@lemmy.dbzer0.com
            #58

            They haven’t posted anything yet.

            β€˜Official verified’ isn’t a thing on bluesky. It’s self-verification, just means you own the domain.

            Most western governments are terrorist. Can you name an administration that isn’t guilty of war crimes? Should they all be automatically blocked from socials?

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            • LorL Lor

              Block them if you want. Block lists are public so... use caution.

              There are MANY government accounts on Blusky. I think if they did not verify them, the government would find someone to buy them or shut them down. Use your heads here.

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              geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml
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              #59

              I prefer the instance blocking Nazis instead of users manually having to do so.

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              • R raman_klogius@ani.social

                The block log is public. It's basically giving uncle Sam a list of targets to hit next.

                Instead burn the bridge connecting to bsky, or ignore the account clientside which is not public.

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                krashmo@lemmy.world
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                #60

                You don't have to be such a bitch about everything. If you guys can't even work up the courage to block a government account on an obscure social media site for fear of reprisal then you might as well enroll yourself for deportation right now because you clearly don't have what it takes to do anything actually useful to stop all this.

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                • geneva_convenience@lemmy.mlG geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml
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                  #61

                  why is this such an issue?? it just shows everyone who to clown on more?

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                  • S stabby_cicada@lemmy.blahaj.zone

                    Yeah, so? Verification just means they are who they say they are. It doesn't mean Bluesky endorses their posts.

                    The White House has a verified Bluesky account, too. They haven't posted anything in months, though, presumably because of all the ratio-ing.

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                    trickdacy@lemmy.world
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                    #62

                    So?

                    Any place Nazis are allowed is not a place I want to be. At least on any Lemmy server I'd not block, Nazis get banned

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                    • geneva_convenience@lemmy.mlG geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml
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                      wrote last edited by trickdacy@lemmy.world
                      #63

                      Everyone responding here and confused why this matters seem not get the point. This post is just a warning that the types of people most of us don't want to associate with are now on that platform. The problem is not that they are verified, it's that they exist there at all.

                      Edit: some reasonable arguments have been made here for allowing these Nazis on Blue sky, which I originally thought was a bad idea, but maybe disallowing them won't actually solve anything and may exacerbate things. I don't know. I'll think about it some more.

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                      • ShimitarS Shimitar

                        Wake up. Ice, being government, it's already legitimized enough in real life.

                        What difference would it make in the social media. Better if they are out in the open in social media instead, at least they get responsible for what they post, officially.

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                        trickdacy@lemmy.world
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                        #64

                        What difference would it make in the social media.

                        Apparently you slept through a fascist dictator rising to power by manipulating desperate people, specifically on social media.

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                        • S stabby_cicada@lemmy.blahaj.zone

                          Yeah, so? Verification just means they are who they say they are. It doesn't mean Bluesky endorses their posts.

                          The White House has a verified Bluesky account, too. They haven't posted anything in months, though, presumably because of all the ratio-ing.

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                          thereturnofpeb@reddthat.com
                          wrote last edited by thereturnofpeb@reddthat.com
                          #65

                          A private group publishing posts for another group is exactly the act of endorsing their posts.

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                          • JessicaS Jessica

                            How about kick them off the platform? Make a big deal about doing it. Tell them to fuck off. Stop tolerating intolerance. I don’t know how blue sky works, but surely there is a way to kick them off of the platform.

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                            trickdacy@lemmy.world
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                            #66

                            Nah tolerating intolerance has been working out well so far. I mean "free speech" is worth literally any price, and further, we should never pressure private companies to align with common morality. That's just censorship!!

                            HUGE /s, and thank you for an actually sane take ITT.

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                            • A auraithx@lemmy.dbzer0.com

                              They haven’t posted anything yet.

                              β€˜Official verified’ isn’t a thing on bluesky. It’s self-verification, just means you own the domain.

                              Most western governments are terrorist. Can you name an administration that isn’t guilty of war crimes? Should they all be automatically blocked from socials?

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                              trickdacy@lemmy.world
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                              #67

                              Should they all be automatically blocked from socials?

                              For companies that have morals or a backbone, abso fucking lutely

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                              • trickdacy@lemmy.worldT trickdacy@lemmy.world

                                So?

                                Any place Nazis are allowed is not a place I want to be. At least on any Lemmy server I'd not block, Nazis get banned

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                                randomgal@lemmy.ca
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                                Are they banned in Mastodon? Lmao

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                                • T thereturnofpeb@reddthat.com

                                  A private group publishing posts for another group is exactly the act of endorsing their posts.

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                                  Which no one will read because bluesky has a really great block system

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                                  • S stabby_cicada@lemmy.blahaj.zone

                                    Yeah, so? Verification just means they are who they say they are. It doesn't mean Bluesky endorses their posts.

                                    The White House has a verified Bluesky account, too. They haven't posted anything in months, though, presumably because of all the ratio-ing.

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                                    Too many people thought that Twitters Blue Checkmark meant you were special. That attitude carries over to Bluesky and being verified.

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                                    • T thereturnofpeb@reddthat.com

                                      A private group publishing posts for another group is exactly the act of endorsing their posts.

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                                      stabby_cicada@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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                                      It's not, though. Do you think that the admins of reddthat.com endorse everything you post? Creating a public forum for people (including the representatives of organizations) to post on doesn't imply that the forum endorses any of the content those people post on it.

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                                      • ripcord@lemmy.worldR ripcord@lemmy.world

                                        Which no one will read because bluesky has a really great block system

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                                        boiglenoight@lemmy.world
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                                        Yeap. This is a provocative, reactive take that doesn’t consider much.

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                                        • geneva_convenience@lemmy.mlG geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml
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                                          general_effort@lemmy.world
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                                          So, trying to parse what's going on here.

                                          Bluesky has verified that an account claiming to belong to the US government agency ICE really is controlled by that agency. Somehow that shows that Mastodon is better. Because Trump has his own Mastodon instance and doesn't need anyone to vouch for his goons?

                                          Looking at the comments, maybe the issue is rather that the Bluesky company provides services to ICE. Tech companies should refuse service. Huh. I guess there is more diversity of opinion on Lemmy than I had thought, regarding the power of tech companies, democracy, and law.

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